Jake White: 'Do you use Clarins?' I never allowed myself to be a puppet…It’s probably why we were so successful. I had the job and I was always going to do it the way I wanted, because I realised you’re going to get fired anyway, too may coaches do what everyone else wants to do, then get fired, so if I was going to get fired at least I can go to bed knowing I cost myself my job.
My most pressured part...2006, by a mile – for me the first part of Tri-Nations, when we were hammered 49-0, there was a lot of talk about me going to the UK as a rugby director. It created a lot of uncertainty for the players.
I knew if they were going to get rid of me, it wouldn’t be too close to the World Cup, so they were always going to make that decision at the beginning of the Tri-Nations.
Everything came at the same time - the hardest parts, around the hardest games, on the most difficult tours, and the most horrific injuries. Schalk [Burger] broke his neck, Bakkies [Botha] did is Achilles - it was the worst 3-4 month period of my life, I just had nowhere to turn, everything was just snowballing.
Fighting politics…There’s simply nothing worse than for black players to be told he is going to play because of the colour of his skin. As white men we tend to forget that. They don’t realise what hurt you do to the young guy.
Imagine if Bryan Habana found out he was playing because he was a coloured guy. It would be a sin. Would he have played 20 years ago when we had apartheid? The answer is no. Now isn’t that sad if a guy like him would never have played rugby at international level because of apartheid.
Team spirit...I’m very happy that every player involved felt that he deserved to be there - black white, 20 or 30 - I feel proud that in four years, no one came out and said I’m feeling like a spare part.
At the end of World Cup those players in the 30 were more overjoyed about winning the World Cup than the guys in the 22. That tells the story.
If they felt like they were hanging on, carrying the bags, do you think they would’ve behaved like they did when the final whistle went? I always say to the people when we pick the 22, the guy that must be the happiest must be the 23rd guy.